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Sampling RF Power

There are times when it's useful to be able to sample RF signals from your transmitter; perhaps you might want to provide a little ALC feedback to your driver, or use signals from a directional coupler to drive power monitors or SWR lockout circuits...

To jump the the section describing a dedicated ALC detector, click this link.

I use this modest little circuit to do these things; the basic idea is to use a microwave diode pair as a detector/voltage doubler to sample the RF signal, and produce a useful DC level to feed those other devices. At the front end is a chip resistor attenuator (R1,R2 and R3) to help put the detected RF at the most useful level for the diodes; then follow the whole thing with a low-pass filter. A trimmer resistor across the output provides some adjustment of the output level, as well as a load to make the response of the diodes reasonably linear (more on this in a bit). The output has some bandwidth, which can be helpful for monitoring video or audio (AM). The circuit is wideband and useful throughout the VHF range to well above 3.5GHz as shown; the useful range can be shifted down to HF and below by changing C1 to a larger value (1000pf). The circuit is set up to produce a negative output signal, which is the most commonly used polarity, though a positive signal can be produced by reversing the diode connections.

For power monitoring, it's best to find a range of power where the diodes are most linear; for ALC feedback, this is not necessary, nor is it for necessary for SWR lockout circuits (both of these require only a relative output level). For power meters, custom meter scales are a must for absolute accuracy, but you can get close by adjusting the load (I used 5k here) and driving the circuit in a range of power that produces the best linearity. I didn't spend a lot of time fine-tuning the load, so more experimentation might produce even better results.

 

This test data was measured in steps up to about 2.5 milliwatts; above that level the output goes into compression, becoming even less linear; the same is true for levels below about 1/2 milliwatt (output drops off rapidly), so for power monitoring, it's best to keep the input level to about 3mw max. This will produce an output of more than a volt. For this particular diode type and load, the most linear response appears to be between levels 4 and 8.

Instead of reversing the diode connections to produce a positive output, another option is to use a diode already packaged in reverse configuration, like this one. Response is similar.

OK, let's go through an example showing how to set the power levels up for the detector; I have a 300w transmitter, and want to monitor the output power. I'll be using a directional coupler to monitor the output, and it is a 30db coupler.

This coupler will reduce the 300w by 30db at the sampled port, producing a level of 300mw. From there I need an attenuator that will reduce this level by another 20db, reducing the 300mw to 3mw. Looking at the table to the right, I'll need to use 61 ohms for R1 and R3, and 248 ohms for R2. I'll use the resistors I have available...perhaps 62 ohms and 250 ohms...the values can vary somewhat, it just isn't that important to miss by a few ohms.

One more example...if you want to also monitor reverse power using the same coupler, and have full scale be equivalent to 2 to 1 SWR, this will be 10db down from the forward power level, or 30w. In this case, you'll only need a 10db attenuator to do the job; 30w will be sampled down to 30mw at the coupler port, and 10db will drop this to 3mw. The chart says to use 96 ohms for R1 and R3, and 71 for R2 (100 ohms and 68 ohms is close enough).

Of course, you don't need to use a directional coupler if all you need to do is provide forward power monitoring or an ALC signal; the simplest way to do this is to just pick off a bit of RF from the transmission line with a small capacitor, a probe, or a resistor, and feed it to the input of the detector circuit.


The board shown here has two separate detector circuits on it, and is the one I now use for monitoring both forward and reverse power with a dual directional coupler, and for providing an SWR trip signal. It could also be used for ALC feedback on one side, and output power on the other...lots of possible combinations.

As an example, the connections for providing the 3 signals mentioned above are:

FWD pwr monitor...connect to output pad of VR1

REV pwr monitor...connect to output pad of VR2

SWR trip signal...connect to output pad at C8/L2

The RF input connections are made with small coax jumpers, shield soldered to the input ground pad, and center conductor to the attenuator input trace, or to the trace feeding C1 (or C5) if the attenuator is not used.


However, if all that's needed is one detector for ALC, the second board shown here is designed just for that (the output of the detector is a negative voltage). Same type of circuit as the dual detector board described above, but the input has been modified to allow your input coax to be routed to the input of the board, and another to be connected to the other end of the input trace and routed to the input of your RF deck. On this board, the adjustment trimmer can be mounted to the component side, or as shown here, to the foil side.
If mounting to the foil side, you can mount the board to a rear panel (with adjustment access hole).
The board can spaced away from the panel using 3/8" spacers.

From the outside, this is what the adjustment access would look like; this example shows an unpainted aluminum panel.
For those not needing access from outside the cabinet, this photo shows how it can be mounted internally with the adjustment trimmer on the component side, and the board spaced above conductive surfaces using 3 washers (as spacers).
 

The schematic below shows component values for 1 through 500MHz, and the input resistor (R2) is the correct value for about the 2w drive level. It will divert only a few milliwatts to the detector. Raising the value of R2 would allow for detection at higher drive levels.

Above 500 MHz, the component values (and diode type) used in the dual detector board shown at the beginning of this article should be used. Also, above 500 MHz the detector's input match degrades, so it is best used with a directional coupler, and as a terminated detector, same as the dual detector board.